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Federay
Federay
the mix
Nov 5 2009, 6:53 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 7:01 AM EST
Here is the first place in which positive discrimination was mentioned in this discussion (as far as I am aware). I wrote: "...this place, the Factory, is the place to have this conversation because we respond to challenges with honesty, energy and imagination. We also are not a company that looks for solutions and rules - we look for more questions, strategies to test, true angles on old problems rather than the inherited angles. So let’s have this conversation - because it is interesting and our responses, I think, will not be to trot down the only-vaguely-effective, familiar paths of positive discrimination, women-only initiatives and such… it will be something else. I think. I think it will be for real."

However IF the majority want the selection on a project such as this to incorporate quotas of particular groups then this should be discussed BEFORE selection - it cannot be applied retrospectively.

Polly Stenham. Sarah Kane. Lucy Kirkwood. Three playwrights who fit and yet do not fit your characterization of young female playwrights' output. Personally I am not interested in the differences between men's and women's writing I am interested in each individual writer's writing. I think that is the only sensible approach.

Look again at my blog. You have twisted my meaning. Define "young" please.

How many jobs have we all not got for infuriating "it's about the mix" reasons. That is how it is. If the mix should have prioritized issues other than looking for pieces that suited the space, event and timing then let's agree on those. Calmly.

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Federay
Federay
1. RE: the mix
Nov 5 2009, 7:03 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 7:03 AM EST

When did anyone say this showing was your big chance and you blew it? When did anyone say the Factory's work on building up a practice for writers ended this week? When did anyone feel their work was treated with less respect in those development sessions than others?

I cannot help you write stuff that sells. I think I can help you write your stuff. That is what I am interested in. If it is the former you are after I am sorry I cannot help you.

I have a lot more to add but I haven't time. I really haven't and I am sorry.
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FayeThomas
FayeThomas
2. RE: the mix
Nov 5 2009, 8:47 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 8:47 AM EST
”However IF the majority want the selection on a project such as this to incorporate quotas of particular groups then this should be discussed BEFORE selection - it cannot be applied retrospectively.” “If the mix should have prioritized issues other than looking for pieces that suited the space, event and timing then let's agree on those. Calmly.”

I don’t know if that’s a response to me, or the discussion taking place on the ‘reply’ thread… but that’s not what I’m saying. In fact the opposite.

I’m just curious as to why there were no young female writers in the selection, if you’re saying that the work was of an equal standard? I’m not talking about incorporating quotas of particular groups. I personally find that notion rather repugnant. I am interested in what it is about our writing that was deemed less fitting to the space (even though all pieces were written without stage directions and could have been performed anywhere), event and timing? I’m actually not remotely angry, I’m just trying to explore how we perceive writing… either I’m a total idiot and my taste counts for nothing, or there is a difference and there are certain qualities that are being actively championed, and others that are overlooked.
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